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Post by cereal on Jul 12, 2020 1:36:52 GMT
Curious if anyone else has seen the Perfection? In particular curious if anyone else has seen both the Perfection and Martyrs? I have some mixed feelings on Martyrs, and it honestly fucks with me a lot. I think the Perfection is sort of a retelling of Martyrs and I have similar mixed feelings about it, but I can see where it changes some of the conclusions. Yeah I thought The Perfection was sort of a mess. Lot of ideas thrown together. I see some themes than run with Martyrs but that is a way better film overall to me. If you like films that stick with you like that, High Tension and Frontiers (the originals) are two other French horror films that stays with you in a bad way after they are over. I'm pretty familiar with the NFE stuff. What I thought was interesting is that I think the Perfection tried to make a version of Martyrs that addresses the misogyny but I also think they failed. I like Martyrs I think, and there's a lot in there I REALLY loved, but also I feel like in the end they pull some really cheap and misogynist shit where they try to implicate the viewer but really just reveal that they don't have anything to say about the desire to depict women suffering. In the Perfection I think they try to set up the same questions but fix this ending and it doesn't work but I just didn't know if anyone else came away with the same interpretation. |
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Post by lordbeavis on Jul 12, 2020 1:38:10 GMT
I assume yes. If so, here are some recommendations either streaming or on PPV right that maybe aren't too well-known or mainstream: - Color Out of Space: Never thought Nic Cage's career revival would be ignited via independent horror, but here we are. Trippy, disturbing, and beautifully shot. (PPV) - Autopsy of Jane Doe: This is brilliant. One of my favorite horror films of the last 10 years or so. (Netflix) - Sinister: More a reminder if you missed this one 10 years ago to watch. Special appearance by Ulver in one of the most terrifying scenes in the movie. (Netflix) - The Ritual: One of the best original things Netflix has produced. - Green Room: It has Patrick Stewart and a lot of Nazis fuckers get off'd. Would recommend everything director Jeremy Saulnier does actually including Blue Ruin, also on Netflix. - Overlord: It is fun as hell. Wish I could have seen it in the theaters. Way underrated. (Amazon Prime and Hulu) - The Crazies: cool twist on the zombie genre and it has Timothy Olyphant who is great in anything (everyone should binge Justified if you haven't seen it). (Amazon) - Dog Soidiers: It is exactly what it says it is. (Amazon)
I really liked Color Out of Space, in spite of Nic Cage. I feel like he's just got the one trick, act crazy. It's a classic Lovecraft story
The Ritual, Green Room, The Crazies (see the original George Romero too) are great. I feel like Dog Solders is a totally under appreciated film.
I haven't seen The Autopsy of Jane Doe, but I've heard it's really good.
I saw Overlord in the theaters and it was a lot of fun
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Post by ualaw557399 on Jul 12, 2020 1:42:03 GMT
I assume yes. If so, here are some recommendations either streaming or on PPV right that maybe aren't too well-known or mainstream: - Color Out of Space: Never thought Nic Cage's career revival would be ignited via independent horror, but here we are. Trippy, disturbing, and beautifully shot. (PPV) - Autopsy of Jane Doe: This is brilliant. One of my favorite horror films of the last 10 years or so. (Netflix) - Sinister: More a reminder if you missed this one 10 years ago to watch. Special appearance by Ulver in one of the most terrifying scenes in the movie. (Netflix) - The Ritual: One of the best original things Netflix has produced. - Green Room: It has Patrick Stewart and a lot of Nazis fuckers get off'd. Would recommend everything director Jeremy Saulnier does actually including Blue Ruin, also on Netflix. - Overlord: It is fun as hell. Wish I could have seen it in the theaters. Way underrated. (Amazon Prime and Hulu) - The Crazies: cool twist on the zombie genre and it has Timothy Olyphant who is great in anything (everyone should binge Justified if you haven't seen it). (Amazon) - Dog Soidiers: It is exactly what it says it is. (Amazon)
I really liked Color Out of Space, in spite of Nic Cage. I feel like he's just got the one trick, act crazy. It's a classic Lovecraft story
The Ritual, Green Room, The Crazies (see the original George Romero too) are great. I feel like Dog Solders is a totally under appreciated film.
I haven't seen The Autopsy of Jane Doe, but I've heard it's really good.
I saw Overlord in the theaters and it was a lot of fun
I am fine Nic playing that one-note role. Like a closer in baseball, he is really, really good at one thing. See Autopsy when you can and let me know what you think. |
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Post by Grackle Wizard on Jul 12, 2020 2:00:56 GMT
Good recommendations (Ritual in particular is really great). I have Color Out of Space on my list, looking forward to that one. I'll have to check out some of the others I haven't seen. Anyone have an opinion of Doctor Sleep? I have heard mixed things. Some good ones I know of that are available on streaming services: The Wailing (Prime, Korean - One of my favorite recent(ish) horror movies, I recommend this to everyone) Train to Busan (Prime, Korean - Another great Korean horror movie, this one is just fun though, zombies on a train) Parasite (Hulu, Korean - More suspense/drama than horror, but a great movie) Midsommer / Hereditary (Prime - Up to the hype in my opinion) Bone Tomahawk (Prime - Western/Horror, takes a while to get to the horror, but some great dialog along the way) The Taking of Deborah Logan (Prime - faux documentary style, takes a while to get going but I found it genuinely scary once it does) A Field in England (Prime - Very original, probably not for everyone but I really enjoyed it) Hagazussa (Prime, German - Gothic horror, beautifully shot) All of these that I have seen (all but the last two) are great. The scene in Bone Tomahawk...uh...I still hear the noises. Have you seen The Host? (Korean monster movie) Man what a lot of fun that movie is....
The Host is another great one. Can't go wrong with anything Bong Joon Ho does.
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Post by lordbeavis on Jul 12, 2020 2:21:26 GMT
The Host is awesome, one of my favorites
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Post by james on Jul 17, 2020 15:47:40 GMT
I liked Color Out of Space, some aspects made me think of Annihilation(def not a bad thing).
For another Nic Cage horror move I realllly liked Mandy, the score is awesome too
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Post by arnoldlayne on Jul 17, 2020 18:11:07 GMT
Must admit, I'm a huge Nic Cage fan and didn't like Color Out of Space at all (and thought Mandy was only okay), but LOVED Mom and Dad. Crazy Cage firing on both barrels.
[as a side note, if anyone doubts Cage-as-still-a-proper-actor, Joe (2014) is a really good drama with a weighty central performance]
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Post by Grackle Wizard on Jul 17, 2020 19:23:05 GMT
I liked Color Out of Space, some aspects made me think of Annihilation(def not a bad thing). For another Nic Cage horror move I realllly liked Mandy, the score is awesome too I loved Mandy. Got to see it in theater. Even if you don't care for Nic Cage the cinematography and the soundtrack are amazing. |
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Post by kay double you on Jul 18, 2020 4:58:15 GMT
Anyone else watch the Hunt and really love it cause I sure as shit did
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Post by ualaw557399 on Jul 18, 2020 9:56:57 GMT
Anyone else watch the Hunt and really love it cause I sure as shit did I haven't yet, but the plot description reminds me of Ice T's Surviving the Game lol |
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Post by uncleglum on Jul 18, 2020 16:28:27 GMT
I'll give another rec for Color Out of Space and Mandy. If you haven't seen Beyond the Black Rainbow and liked Mandy, check it out, it's by the same director. I like Panos Cosmatos' style, those long, brooding, trippy scenes. Has a pretty good synth score, too.
Halloween 3 was mentioned before. I think it's the second best in the series after from the first one (still haven't seen the one they put out a few years ago, but want to). They did a great job capturing the feel of a John Carpenter film, which isn't surprising since there were a lot of Carpenter collaborators involved, including him and Debra Hill as producers. From what I understand, the original concept behind the Halloween series was to do different stories all centered around Halloween-related themes, with this being the first one after the original two to try it out. It's too bad it flopped and they had to go back to the Michael Myers story, because it would have been interesting to see what else they could have done. As it is, the story of 3 is good and the film itself is fairly masterful. Definitely recommend it alongside the others that already have.
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Post by ualaw557399 on Jul 19, 2020 2:00:14 GMT
I'll give another rec for Color Out of Space and Mandy. If you haven't seen Beyond the Black Rainbow and liked Mandy, check it out, it's by the same director. I like Panos Cosmatos' style, those long, brooding, trippy scenes. Has a pretty good synth score, too. Halloween 3 was mentioned before. I think it's the second best in the series after from the first one (still haven't seen the one they put out a few years ago, but want to). They did a great job capturing the feel of a John Carpenter film, which isn't surprising since there were a lot of Carpenter collaborators involved, including him and Debra Hill as producers. From what I understand, the original concept behind the Halloween series was to do different stories all centered around Halloween-related themes, with this being the first one after the original two to try it out. It's too bad it flopped and they had to go back to the Michael Myers story, because it would have been interesting to see what else they could have done. As it is, the story of 3 is good and the film itself is fairly masterful. Definitely recommend it alongside the others that already have. Zombie's Halloween's are polarizing, but I am on the side where I really enjoyed them - especially the first one. Completely different tenor than Carpenters, but think of it as a really well done cover tune/remix. |
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Post by uncleglum on Jul 19, 2020 4:28:02 GMT
I've never seen the Zombie Halloween films. Not sure I'll ever seek them out, based on how I wasn't super into his other films, but if I ever happen to stumble on them on some streaming service I have and want to kill some time, I might give them a go.
Also have to mention the original Black Christmas. I got the film on a whim because it was on sale, and also because it was directed by Bob Clark, who went on to direct Porky's and A Christmas Story among others, and I wanted to see what a horror film directed by him would be like. I was really impressed with it. Parts of it are pretty predictable, and follow along with well-known slasher film tropes, but it was also one of the first slasher films, and helped establish those tropes. Looking back through the lens of decades worth of similar films does a bit of a disservice to it. There's also some surprising feminist elements to it, and very direct, disturbing depictions of patriarchal views of ownership of women. Of course, it does the classic slasher trope of its victims being mainly women being killed by a man, but there is something about the way it treats its characters and looks down on patriarchal violence that a lot of slasher films missed, despite being influenced by this film. It's not perfect, and it's dated in ways, but it's definitely a worthy effort that impressed me a lot. I don't know if it's streaming for free anywhere, but if you can find it to rent for a few bucks, I'd say check it out.
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Post by ualaw557399 on Jul 19, 2020 6:48:14 GMT
I've never seen the Zombie Halloween films. Not sure I'll ever seek them out, based on how I wasn't super into his other films, but if I ever happen to stumble on them on some streaming service I have and want to kill some time, I might give them a go. Also have to mention the original Black Christmas. I got the film on a whim because it was on sale, and also because it was directed by Bob Clark, who went on to direct Porky's and A Christmas Story among others, and I wanted to see what a horror film directed by him would be like. I was really impressed with it. Parts of it are pretty predictable, and follow along with well-known slasher film tropes, but it was also one of the first slasher films, and helped establish those tropes. Looking back through the lens of decades worth of similar films does a bit of a disservice to it. There's also some surprising feminist elements to it, and very direct, disturbing depictions of patriarchal views of ownership of women. Of course, it does the classic slasher trope of its victims being mainly women being killed by a man, but there is something about the way it treats its characters and looks down on patriarchal violence that a lot of slasher films missed, despite being influenced by this film. It's not perfect, and it's dated in ways, but it's definitely a worthy effort that impressed me a lot. I don't know if it's streaming for free anywhere, but if you can find it to rent for a few bucks, I'd say check it out. The original BC is great. Really well done and stands out among the glut of slasher films in the 80's. Definitely give Zombie's first Halloween a stab if it is on free sometime. I actually didn't go nuts over the Devil's Rejects and couldn't last 15 minutes through Lords of Salem. He has a pretty narrow vision for most of his stuff and casting the same people over and over again isn't ideal, but he really created a nice origin story for Michael in his adaptation. Some didn't like there was an origin story at all which is understandable too. The second one is much gorier, darker. It seemed rushed but has its moments. |
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Post by Grackle Wizard on Jul 19, 2020 18:00:12 GMT
I've never seen the Zombie Halloween films. Not sure I'll ever seek them out, based on how I wasn't super into his other films, but if I ever happen to stumble on them on some streaming service I have and want to kill some time, I might give them a go. Also have to mention the original Black Christmas. I got the film on a whim because it was on sale, and also because it was directed by Bob Clark, who went on to direct Porky's and A Christmas Story among others, and I wanted to see what a horror film directed by him would be like. I was really impressed with it. Parts of it are pretty predictable, and follow along with well-known slasher film tropes, but it was also one of the first slasher films, and helped establish those tropes. Looking back through the lens of decades worth of similar films does a bit of a disservice to it. There's also some surprising feminist elements to it, and very direct, disturbing depictions of patriarchal views of ownership of women. Of course, it does the classic slasher trope of its victims being mainly women being killed by a man, but there is something about the way it treats its characters and looks down on patriarchal violence that a lot of slasher films missed, despite being influenced by this film. It's not perfect, and it's dated in ways, but it's definitely a worthy effort that impressed me a lot. I don't know if it's streaming for free anywhere, but if you can find it to rent for a few bucks, I'd say check it out. The original BC is great. Really well done and stands out among the glut of slasher films in the 80's. Definitely give Zombie's first Halloween a stab if it is on free sometime. I actually didn't go nuts over the Devil's Rejects and couldn't last 15 minutes through Lords of Salem. He has a pretty narrow vision for most of his stuff and casting the same people over and over again isn't ideal, but he really created a nice origin story for Michael in his adaptation. Some didn't like there was an origin story at all which is understandable too. The second one is much gorier, darker. It seemed rushed but has its moments.
I would agree. I never got into Rob Zombie's other movies but I enjoyed his take on Halloween.
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